diff --git a/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos1.sql b/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos1.sql
new file mode 100644
--- /dev/null
+++ b/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos1.sql
@@ -0,0 +1,2 @@
+ALTER TABLE {$NAMESPACE}_project.project_columnposition
+  ADD COLUMN objectOrderID INT UNSIGNED NOT NULL AFTER sequence;
diff --git a/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos2.php b/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos2.php
new file mode 100644
--- /dev/null
+++ b/resources/sql/autopatches/20140807.boardpos2.php
@@ -0,0 +1,28 @@
+<?php
+
+$table = new PhabricatorProjectColumnPosition();
+$conn_w = $table->establishConnection('w');
+
+foreach (new LiskMigrationIterator($table) as $row) {
+  $id = $row->getID();
+  echo "Setting object order ID for position {$id}...\n";
+
+  if ($row->getObjectOrderID()) {
+    continue;
+  }
+
+  $object = id(new PhabricatorObjectQuery())
+    ->setViewer(PhabricatorUser::getOmnipotentUser())
+    ->withPHIDs(array($row->getObjectPHID()))
+    ->executeOne();
+  if ($object) {
+    queryfx(
+      $conn_w,
+      'UPDATE %T SET objectOrderID = %d WHERE id = %d',
+      $table->getTableName(),
+      $object->getID(),
+      $id);
+  }
+}
+
+echo "Done.\n";
diff --git a/src/applications/maniphest/editor/ManiphestTransactionEditor.php b/src/applications/maniphest/editor/ManiphestTransactionEditor.php
--- a/src/applications/maniphest/editor/ManiphestTransactionEditor.php
+++ b/src/applications/maniphest/editor/ManiphestTransactionEditor.php
@@ -219,6 +219,7 @@
             ->setBoardPHID($board_phid)
             ->setColumnPHID($phid)
             ->setObjectPHID($object->getPHID())
+            ->setObjectOrderID($object->getID())
             // TODO: Do real sequence stuff.
             ->setSequence(0)
             ->save();
diff --git a/src/applications/project/query/PhabricatorProjectColumnPositionQuery.php b/src/applications/project/query/PhabricatorProjectColumnPositionQuery.php
--- a/src/applications/project/query/PhabricatorProjectColumnPositionQuery.php
+++ b/src/applications/project/query/PhabricatorProjectColumnPositionQuery.php
@@ -143,7 +143,7 @@
         $unions[] = qsprintf(
           $conn_r,
           'SELECT NULL id, e.src boardPHID, NULL columnPHID, e.dst objectPHID,
-              0 sequence
+              0 sequence, 0 objectOrderID
             FROM %T e LEFT JOIN %T p
               ON e.src = p.boardPHID AND e.dst = p.objectPHID
               %Q',
@@ -178,14 +178,43 @@
 
     $positions = $table->loadAllFromArray($data);
 
+    $ephemeral = array();
     foreach ($positions as $position) {
       if ($position->getColumnPHID() === null) {
         $position->makeEphemeral();
         $column_phid = idx($default_map, $position->getBoardPHID());
         $position->setColumnPHID($column_phid);
+
+        $ephemeral[] = $position;
       }
     }
 
+    // If we have objects which aren't in a column, pull the underlying data
+    // to get the correct sub-ordering.
+
+    if ($ephemeral) {
+      $ephemeral_objects = id(new PhabricatorObjectQuery())
+        ->setViewer(PhabricatorUser::getOmnipotentUser())
+        ->withPHIDs(mpull($ephemeral, 'getObjectPHID'))
+        ->execute();
+
+      $ephemeral_objects = mpull($ephemeral_objects, null, 'getPHID');
+      foreach ($ephemeral as $ephemeral_position) {
+        $object = idx($ephemeral_objects, $ephemeral_position->getObjectPHID());
+        if ($object) {
+          $ephemeral_position->setObjectOrderID($object->getID());
+        }
+      }
+
+      // TODO: We should probably just save these positions and return real
+      // objects instead of ephemeral objects (that is, create the positions
+      // as a side effect of the query). This makes more sense now that boards
+      // start empty and need to be explicitly initialized. However, if we make
+      // a mess with this ordering stuff it's easier to clean up if we didn't
+      // write a bunch of extra rows. Keep them ephemeral for now and create
+      // real rows after T4807 is stable?
+    }
+
     return $positions;
   }
 
diff --git a/src/applications/project/storage/PhabricatorProjectColumnPosition.php b/src/applications/project/storage/PhabricatorProjectColumnPosition.php
--- a/src/applications/project/storage/PhabricatorProjectColumnPosition.php
+++ b/src/applications/project/storage/PhabricatorProjectColumnPosition.php
@@ -7,6 +7,7 @@
   protected $columnPHID;
   protected $objectPHID;
   protected $sequence;
+  protected $objectOrderID;
 
   private $column = self::ATTACHABLE;